It's peculiar to think that the British are well known for complaining and yet they 'conquered' the world (not bad on the 'doing' front). It's complaining with action isn't it? Here in NZ (descendants of the Brits) complain and then take action...hence nuclear free when those dastardly americans came calling and no south african rugy tours when apartheid was in full swing. I like that about NZ. They put up or shut up. The Maoris never stopped taking action which gives this country a backbone. What's my point? People who incite trouble are the ones we all need to listen to no matter how argumentative or curmudgeonesque they may be. And you Alan are one of them!